Just my thoughts
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Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:51
Just my thoughts
So yea, I am a tinhatter; here are a few of my obversation from the last several interviews.
Kris while talking to Ryan showed cracks in his marriage, he is having to make up to Katy.
Adam while traveling has been seen with one finger nail not painted.
Adam wore a beanie one day and Kris wore one the next day.
Adam said he does not have a boyfriend then in another interview he said he might be in love.
Kris is on his couch at 4 AM when the earth quake hit today.
So I say things are progressing towards Kradam. This is my story and I’m sticking with it!
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Kradamluv I must admit after that vid I debated starting a thread about it. I love Kradam, obviously...but I think you MIGHT be the only one here that actually puts them both on the same level...most of us are Adam folks first and foremost...and whichever way you swing, its fine. Now, that being said...I wonder about Kris's choice of friends. That vid lost him some fans the other night, no doubt, and its not the first time stuff like that has come up. I don't think Kris HIMSELF is homophobic or racist...quite the opposite, actually...but those douchebags he hangs with leave a lot to be desired. Making a video like that, even in jest, is a baaaaddd PR move on Kris's behalf. I heard the 'im outta here' and was relieved. I was about to denounce Kris Allen if he were participating in that and enjoying it, even for a second. Bigotry is the one thing that will make me hate someone.
Yeah, I agree, Kradamluv:
Besides, Kris defended Adam a lot, and he never was amused by homophobic remarks.
Even in the video that Charles tweeted, he wasn't really laughing. Off camera he said "I'm outta here".
Besides, he went to St. Felix, Adam's favorite bar (which is a gay bar btw).
Also, I don't think Kris is actually weird. I think he is just not your typical guy. And that's good.
Adam is not that typical either. Lol.
Obviously I don't know them, but from what I've seen and heard, they compliment and complete each other very well.
Sometimes I have a moral dilemma of wishing seeing them in public more, cause I love their interaction; but I also want to respect their private relationship and lives as much as possible.
But more often than not the first one wins, simply because I love them separate, and I love them together. But seeing them together all smiley and happy really makes my heart melt
You guys have not watched all of Adam and Kris's interviews have you. Kris is a good man and wants to do good but he is not perfect and he has said that. In a interview Adam mentioned that Kris is a christian but he is so open to many different things and that is why he and Adam got along so well cause Kris didn't give a crud about Adam being Gay. The person that Adam said was set into everything was Danny.
Adam and Kris were roommates for a long long time and I bet they talked every night about things and I bet neither judged each other at all. They became very close and they care about each other.
Oh if you didn't see the interview with Daniel during the tour he said he got to know Adam pretty well during the time on the as did the whole family. He said most people would not know but Adam and Kris are a lot alike. He said the main thing about both is that they are good loving men that have big hearts. Daniel says that Adam is like a brother to him. The Allens love Adam so very much and the Lamberts love Kris.
Kris is not weird. Adam says he has one of the best sense of humors and is someone with a good heart. Kris also says Adam is a good man with a good heart.
ETA: Kris is not homaphobic or racist. Kris has lived his life doing missionary work being around many different people. He said he learned a lot from these people and he feels they made him a better man. If he was homophobic or a racist he would not of been able to do these trips. He wants to do more of them by the way. He wants to continue traveling to help people.
Lorellin, I never thought Kris was vanilla at all, actually. Wouldn't make sense. I know that's what 19 is promoting, but whatevs, whatever he has to do to please the label and keep his contract is AOK with me. As for Charles, lost all respect for him after that vid last night, and even, I hate to say it, questioned Kris for a second there, then remembered how much Adam loves him and dismissed my doubts unless Adam says something about it. (if you didnt see it, go to @charlesbrowder on twitter and look at the gay hat twitvid). And Kris is definitely weird, no doubt. I think he is a good Christian, or tries to be, at least, but certainly deviates from what most devout believers practice on many accounts. I follow Kris a lot, and most folks on this site miss A LOT, you are right there. He does have more in common with Adam than people think. Oh, as for eyes and ears,yeah, be careful some...but I don't think anyone besides tinhatters and people that want to stir the pot in this section look here. Most go to Adam Discussion for their info. So this place is safer to post than anywhere else here.
I dont really have any inside info.
But I do listen to Kris's interviews. As well as Adam's. I really love them both. I know about each of them equally too.
Ok, the thing is, if you watch Kris's interviews, follow his tweets, look at his performance videos... he really is not the perfect Christian boring guy he is portrayed to be. I remember all the comments about Kris is so boring, and Adam is so fun... Ugh.
But actually, same goes Adam, who is mostly portrayed as this OTT glittery scandal kind of guy. And I really hate that too.
Kris is not innocent or vanilla or boring. I think in general both Kris and Adam are more alike than different. Kris's brother, Daniel, said the same thing in one of the interviews. They joke a lot, talk a lot. Have tons of fun together. They respect each other's music. They basically CHOSE to live together. And did so for 7 months. It has to mean something in terms of their compatibility.
Charles, Kris's friend, confirmed twice that he hates Kris's image 19E is giving to the public, and basically that Kris isn't allowed to do anything that deviates from the image he's been given.
Kris's twitter.
Lol, in one of his interviews he said that he just finds the most stupidest thing and tweets it. He also admitted that he is kind of weird.
He is not being serious with it. Plus he is a snarky guy. Or he can be when he wants to.
I can actually go on. But again, I'm not comfortable with writing too much in the open. Too many eyes watching.
Bottom line is, I think people who are not really following Kris are probably missing a lot of things.
Kradamluv, I don't think anything ever went on with Kris and Adam. I'm saying I think it COULD, because the affection is there. Too much evidence to ignore. Plus, Kris admitted on at least 3 occasions to having a crush on Adam. It wasn't in a joking manner either. He was flustered and embarrassed and totally serious when the interviewers got it out of him. As for the marriage, yes, I think they want it to work. I just don't think it will though. Kris changed a lot during Idol, and Adam is a big reason for that. I've watched celebrity marriages begin to fall apart many times, as I've been a pop culture freak for years. I'm seeing the early signs right and left with Kris and Katy. I'm not saying I WANT Kris and Katy to be miserable and fall apart just so that Kris can go running to Adam. Quite the opposite, actually. Can you imagine the backlash and scandal if Kradam came out as a couple and Kris filed for divorce? It would do irreparable damage to both their careers, and Katy would look like a fool. I don't want that at all. But, if that's what would make them both happy(and I truly believe it is, but can't really KNOW that,as I don't know them personally) then so be it. As for the twitter...IDK what his reasons for his odd tweets are. I do know that he gets ppl asking where he is, etc cuz i check his @replies a lot. So that could be the case for that.
Galore@camp Kris is not being weird with his twitter. Kris did an interview where he said straight out he try's to twitter any thing because the times he has not tweeted anything his followers start going bonkers and sending him tweets to see if he is okay. Seriously he can't go one day without someone wigging out. So he said cause of this he try's to think of anything just to put on there even if he has nothing to say.
For the cheetos thing; that is him having fun with Alli cause Alli loves the hot cheetos and he will find some and tease her with them.
When he takes twitpics and stuff of Mountains and stuff he is doing it cause he thinks it is pretty and just showing everybody what he see's. I like when he does that cause many of the shots have been gorgeous.
Okay onto the Kradam thing. I love them as good friends I am so not a tin hatter and I do not believe anything is going on between them. Kris loves Katy and yes right now things are tough because they are still pretty much newly weds and he is away a lot. Chris Daughtry warned him about this and that is exactly why Kris try's to be gone only a few weeks at a time. His marriage is important to him. Kris and Katy want to spend time together and that is why Katy has been able to go to some of his gigs with him and also will be going to others.
I do believe Adam has feelings for Kris but he is too good of a friend to ever try to tear them apart.
I will say if Kris did ever change there is only one person I would want him with and that is Adam. But in saying that I don't think it will happen and I want Kris and Katy Happy and I want Adam happy.
Wat is a beanie? lolz anyway The rest is cute!
Lorellin, what do you mean Kris isn't the person he is portrayed to be in the media? Now, I'll say I DO NOT think that he is as innocent as people make him out to be. If he were, he wouldn't be buddies with Adam. However, he's a terrible actor. Have you seen his interviews without Adam? They are almost painful. He's TERRIBLY inarticulate, and often, especially in magazine quotes, puts his foot in his mouth without even realizing it. I also think he's sorta weird(Tweeting about cheetos and mountains?) but the media does play that part down. But I think what you see is pretty much what you get. That kid couldn't act if his life depended on it.
KittyKat, thanks! Also, google pre idol Kris sometime. There are photos of him in skin tight pants and guyliner. Straight men don't do stuff like that. Also frat boy type pics of him lying all over other dudes and stuff like that. Would have saved them had I known this section was going to be here.
I luv Kradam so much:)
Lorellin: Hmm, how do you know that Kris isn't really the guy he is portrayed to be in the media? Sounds like you have inside info... So what kind of guy is he really, then? I want to know more, lol!
@Lorellin, I agree with everything you said! And I believe Kris and Adam WILL remain friends for life!
Wow there are actual tinhatters here.
Lol, it's probably not very wise of me to say anything here in the open, with TPTB reading this.
Umm... Adommy, Ratbert, Lambliff or wherever is not real. They are friends and coworkers, but lovers? Lol.
Adam going with Tommy and bunch of friends doesn't mean they are lovers. Adam invited other friends too, but they couldn't go.
They spend time together. But like I said, they are coworkers and probably good friends. When in universe does it mean that they are in love?
Kradam...
Let's just say that I believe. I have far too many reasons not to not think so.
The fact that Kris is married doesn't really disprove anything. Marriage does not equal to not cheating and staying in love forever. As time goes by, things change. People fall out of love.
Beliefs change too. I think Adam influenced Kris a lot in that. Plus Kris doesn't live in Arkansas anymore. He lives in Weho. His views will alter also because of his surroundings.
Oh... and Kris is really not the guy he is portrayed to be in the media (and I hate that image).
But whatever happens, I just want Kris and Adam at least to stay friends.
@galore@camp, I agree with you totally, about everything you wrote!
My thoughts are this: Kradam- as in the AI/tour version of it- is something akin to a summer camp friendship. Two totally different people that would otherwise NEVER cross paths fell into an intense relationship due to circumstance. Now that they have come out of the AI bubble and back to their 'new reality' as rock stars in their own right, they have grown apart, but the intensity remains, because that is no ordinary friendship, never was. It happened emotionally, no doubt. But Kris loves Katy, and Adam is too respectful of what they have to try anything. Plus he doesn't want to ruin the friendship. But, if given the chance, I think they'll do something about it now. Kris and Katy aren't gonna last, I don't think. Katy wants to be a star. Kris wants to be a simple guy that plays music. Katy strikes me as the type to get caught up in the whole hollywood game, start doing her own thing, and WANT to be with someone that likes the attention as much as she does. Kris hates interviews, and is incredibly inarticulate. He has said time and time again that he sort of flies under the radar and sticks his head out of the sand when necessary. Otherwise he just plays his guitar and sings and does his thing. As for Adommy...well I never bought into that, and Tommy has a gf now. I actually kind of roll my eyes at it. One thing we need to remember: Tommy is on Adam's payroll. Yes, they are friends. Lovers? I don't think so. I think Adam is too smart to ruin a great band. If that were to happen, then get messy, the band breaks up. I don't think he's dumb enough to ruin a good thing like that. That's just my opinion though, I know others feel otherwise. And for the record, i subscribe to a Kinsey scale perspective on the gay/straight thing. Almost nobody is totally straight or totally gay. JMHO.
@AdamisDevine, that's ok, we'll just have to disagree on this one, re. Allison! Even as late as the last Kradison concert, Adam was referring in an interview to Allison as little sis'. I just don't think it's in the cards at all in her case, and she is still a teen, whether she looks or acts older or not! I just don't see it happening that way!
As for Tommy, yes, I have seen his Facebook, etc. which leads me to think he could be bi of course! But Adam said in an interview Tommy is straight, a girl friend recently said no way would Tommy go for guys, and he is dating a girl. But I'm not that naive to think he is necessarily totally straight, lol! I just think there is a little game going on as well, and just cuz Tommy looks feminine sometimes or wears makeup on stage... Well, I just don't like being played for a fool, and think those guys are sometimes laughin' about their antics behind our backs (in a nice way of course!) lol! Who really knows and does it really matter anyways in the long run, as long as they keep entertaining us!!!
Thanks KittyKat for talking me down, I appreciate your opinion. No way is Tommy totally straight. If you check him out, and listen to him talk you'll see that he is gay. He's a bisexual. They date men and women at the same time, because the sexes are very different. Up on his myspace and facebook there are pictures of him with men, etc. so he pretty much appreciates both sexes. Drake was bi too. As far as Allison is concerned I hope that you are right. But I think she would like to date him, and also I don't think that she is that young. She's a little more mature for her age, I think, because of the show, and her being in contests, and training etc. She'll be finishing up high school soon. She'll be old enough to get married next month. I have a really good friend who celebrated her 50th wedding anniversary this year. She got married when she was 18. So, did my sister in law. It doesn't matter how old Adam is. He's not that much older than her. Now, if she married some old geezer then maybe I'd agree with you. So, we'll see. He always tells us not to rule out women. So, maybe he' may be hopeful to find a nice girl, and settle down. Miracles do happen. I think he has gotten that from Kris, and probably other gay men who are living as Bi's. So, I just hope that he is happy.
@AdamisDevine,
Sorry, but I don't buy at all the whole Adommy thing. Adam has said Tommy is straight, and Tommy is at present dating a girl, plus he basically works for Adam, not under him. I also think Adam TOTALLY thinks of Allison as a little sister, he has said it repeatedly since day one, and anything else would just be inappropriate due to their age difference and present family type relationship. Even when she gets to the age of consent. Also, Adam is gay, and if he did explore his bi-curiousness, it wouldn't be with a young girl who he thinks of as a sister.
However, Kris is another story, lol! I agree with you completely about everything you say in that regard!!!!
Sometimes I think so, and sometimes I don't. Kris loves Katy, so that leaves Adam to satisfy himself somewhere else. I do think that Kris has feelings for him, I have always thought this. He may have Bi tendencies or even in the closet as a bisexual, that never acted on his attractions. I don't know. It just seems that Adam does move him. But he wants to have a marriage with children...and do what his Christian Faith wants him to do. I do think that they do dig each other, and if things were different they would make a great couple. Adam would mellow some, and be more discreet, and Kris would become more glam. They both could really learn from each other. I have often thought that it would be Katy that would stray from Kris. She may get all caught up in the limelight of acting. She is a great actress. I have seen some of her stuff. It can happen. People often go separate ways when things change. They also went out together for a LONG time, so you never know. But now I also wonder about Allison turning 18. Could Adam have any attraction for her, and just be calling her his little sister until she is older to hide their affection for each other. There is some evidence there that they definite love each other as people. But brother and sister? Who knows about that. I can't wait to find out. Then there's Tommy. He went on vacation with Adam. I do think they're lovers. So, he might be in love with him. So, we'll see about that. They are the ones that have the time and place to be in love. They'll always be together most of the time. It's all about trust anyway. But right now I do think that Kris does have an attraction for Adam. I think Katy might think so too. I don't know. She doesn't have to worry though. The ball is in her court.
@happytobeme -- It has been on my mind all week that Adam and Kris are "growing closer together". I don't have any statistics -- just womanly intuition or maybe just hoping that somehow they will end up with each other. That could only happen if (God forbid) something happened to Katy because I don't think Kris and Katy will ever seek a divorce. That would have already happened by the end of the 2009 Summer Tour when Adam and Kris were practically in each other's face for almost three months.
I guess I just want Adam to be happy, and I think Kris is the one who makes Adam the happiest -- the passionate hug they shared at the US interview was very revealing, as well as their many touches and hugs during the recent Kradison concert. They seemingly can't avoid touching each other whenever they find themselves together. It's like their both magnetized -- but only for each other!! I guess time will tell -- or we'll read more into their tweeting each other. Maybe they just like to drive their fans insane -- not really a drive any more for me; more like a putt.
I don't think any of your listings holds any water. Katy doesn't have anything to worry about. That earthquake was LA quakes which happen all the time. I'm a tin hatter too, but I think Adam might be in love, and he just isn't talking about it. Kris is married. Our tinhatting is innocent.