RCAEd, can we can updated sales #'s for FYE cd and GNT dvd?:

RCAEd, can we can updated sales #'s for FYE cd and GNT dvd?

It's been a month since we have seen any numbers.

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I bought 2 copies of the DVD last week at Best Buy....Target seemed to have NOTHING but they have really been cutting back on their selection.

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How many FYE cd's have been shipped in the U.S.? It seems like it should be deemed platinum by now.

Btw, I was going to pick up another copy at Target the other day, but they were OUT.

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During Adam's Twitter party tonight he re-affirmed the same general timeframe for CD #2: Fall 2011.

@adamlambert @islandgirljams album will be out in the fall. So excited! Been making a lot of music and coming up w ideas for art and style. #nextlevel

http://twitter.com/#!/adamlambert/status/72075008469512193

Ed, indy, pyro and others -- just want to say thanks for providing something interesting to read/consider.
@Shelnik, Ed found that line with the word irony a little confusing as well. would think the irony would be that the artists who need it most either don't get it bestowed/or it is not sought. @Ed if you can, please clarify.

just a personal aside. we too have several gold and platinum plaques from artists whose albums hubby worked on (the credit of course belonging to the artist not the execs). sure they remained buried in drawers (tho kids recently found, re-framed and one took to hang in her apartment: guess they have a generic meaning to the world at large LOL). seriously though, being certified platinum officially, and with that silly plaque -- idk Ed, been around this a long time and IMO it's just not meaningless. (emphasis on opinion Eye-wink )

To RCA ED!

OMG! Thanks for my giggle of the day! LOL!!

"Buffynut2001 (which I first read as buttnut2001 - hey now!): here's an updated breakdown of all FYE songs"

Buffy the Vampire Slayer, silly. Huge fan (the TV Joss Wheedon version, not the silly movie.)

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Hi @Kitty!

Thanks @Ed for taking the time to give us sales numbers as well as your industry knowledge. I know you're a very busy man so your efforts are very much appreciated.

One of your glamberts Smiling

I'm just here to say hi..... Smiling Hi @Ed! Hi @asiladam! Hi @Judy! Hi @Kates! Hi @shelnick! Hi the rest! Yup... Just leaving my positive trail behind me! Everywhere I go. Laughing out loud

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Ed, thank you very much for your responses today!!!

You: "There's honestly no firm time-frame in place yet for Adam's next album."

Me: UGHHHHHHHHHH!! An entire fandom will lose it if no CD is released by year's end (aka for Christmas buying, which I'm sure is one of your targets). Eye-wink That's a public service announcement.
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You: "Well let me tell you, if ANYONE would hold us over a wheelbarrow about certifying a single or doing anything else they wanted done, it would be 19, and I say that with great love after years of fruitful partnership between our companies. No, seriously!"

Me: Interesting. I like to be able to lay blame -- even if I have no idea what I'm talking about (LOL) -- and 19 is what I thought was a good target for that. Crap.
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You: "And you may find this ironic, but oftentimes, certifications are sought for artists whose young careers actually NEED the endorsement that an official certification may bring - not the other way around."

Me: Not surprised by this at all; it's smart.

Thank you @RCAEd for your insight and your thoughtful comments. There was one thought that got my attention though. When you said that some young artists NEED the endorsement for their young careers does that mean possibly Adam doesn't need that kind of certification at this point in his career? I know you can't or probably won't be able to answer that question. It was just a thought when I read your post.

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Ok, I'll take that "GUESS' @Ed......just kidding....not
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Well let me tell you, if ANYONE would hold us over a wheelbarrow about certifying a single or doing anything else they wanted done, it would be 19, and I say that with great love after years of fruitful partnership between our companies. No, seriously!

And you may find this ironic, but oftentimes, certifications are sought for artists whose young careers actually NEED the endorsement that an official certification may bring - not the other way around.

And I could GUESS at a release date for Adam's next single, but that's all it would be: a guess. And you know that if I even guess, I'll be held to it by some folks, and there's honestly no firm time-frame in place yet for Adam's next album. I could give you a few ideal or possible release targets, but all would be conjecture.

The man is working hard, though, and we're still working on preparing the in-studio footage you guys got wind of as soon as possible.

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Ed,

Perhaps, it makes things a little better that you too would like for certification to be over and done with. Laughing out loud

The real rub if you will -- and I know this doesn't fall under your duties -- is all the other RCA artists that have had singles certified platinum, double-platinum, etc. during the same time period.

I don't know if someone in the sales department or wherever is making the determination, for example, that Kesha and Posner are the biggest single-sellers, therefore we will certify all of theirs. Meanwhile that hasn't happened for Adam -- or Kelly Clarkson or Daughtry lately (if I remember correctly). It just doesn't seem right.

P.S. I've already done my Zen-like chant, but can't ignore that all three of those last acts have ...dun, dun, dun, American Idol in common. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. I love that the show gave us Adam and a couple other really good artists, but more and more the acts it producers seemingly get redheaded stepchildren treatment from overall music industry (at times perhaps warranted, but other times definitely not). It is what it is I guess.

P.S. #2 -- Do you have ANY possible timeframe for Adam's new single to be released -- even a simple reply that late summer is still the plan? IMAGINE smiley that's down on knees and pleading Eye-wink

Indybeck, thanks for your more measured opinion - you made some great points. The only comment I'll add is that professionals in the music business at large don't really keep tabs on who gets certified for what, because the Soundscan and radio airplay data already tells us what we need to know without the need for a shiny plaque. Hey don't get me wrong! Plaques are nice - I have a few nice ones on my wall for services rendered, blah, blah, blah - but they're not the Vince Lombardi trophy - haha! At least not to business folk, and I for one don't like to glorify them, as though they belong to me instead of the artists behind them. But of course I understand why fans might feel differently. Would it make you feel better if I said I'd also like to certify the thing and be done with it? But it's just not my call to make as the online marketing dude - it's a sales department thing.

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This does seem pretty obvious: Adam could have a "platinum certified single to help establish his credibility as a 'hit maker'. He shouldn't have to 'ask', that sort of stuff isn't about looking pretty on his wall or stroking his ego it is about establishing his standing in the music industry."

I'd imagined this would get taken care of leading up to release of first single for era #2 since "platinum" also reads well in promotional materials, etc. and in TV/radio introductions for that artist.

As for Cumulus, I call them something else and it's not complimentary. They are notorious for being crappy with new artists, plus they have conservative leanings. Regardless, I single-handedly blame them for WWFM not reaching radio Top 10 and going who knows where from there. Should have been a Top 5 song; it was that good.

(And the Cumulus block still playing WWFM today -- perhaps the most consistently of any stations -- does not make up for how late they added the song OR how they quit playing it "coincidentally" during time when Adam sang WWFM on Idol so as to not boost the song further OR how they magically started playing song again at its highest frequency after the fat lady had sung chart-wise. I can only hope Cumulus will add the next pop/rock-sounding song from Adam much quicker.)

Just my two cents (or less). Eye-wink

Thanks for the numbers!

Pyro, you're obviously an expert! Would you like to be our new CEO and tell us AND Adam how to do our jobs in person? Please send your resume ASAP. Oh, and send us a feedback email once you cool down, if you want to discuss it further (not the resume - the nasty note).

Let me elaborate: pursuing this plaque idea, one-off singles and remix EPs, and even special items (posters, t-shirts, etc.) attached to fan editions in the AO store almost never recoup the time and money necessary to conceive them - partly due to smaller sales volume and partly because any time you go beyond basic album configurations, the contracts get dusted off and lawyers start haggling over ownership definitions. So if I seem a little hurt when this plaque idea is categorized as a money play, it's because there's really very little financial upside involved. Such "specials" really are efforts to reward fan loyalty - NOT drum up additional revenue; the quantities just don't justify the work involved. Hope that makes sense, thanks.

"You know what I'd really like to do, when the time comes? Make FYE platinum plaques available through the AO store, with the option for you to personalize them with your own names - how cool would that be? "

It would be cooler if RCA gave some indication that they are still interested in Adam's longterm career rather than looking for new ways to milk money out of established fans.

As one of those 'crazies' that followed radio play, I saw some indication that programming directors in the US were reluctant to add If I Had You because WWFM never hit top 10 on CHR and therefore Adam was not a 'proven' hitmaker. If RCA had listened to the 'crazy' fans about programming blocks (cumulus) not adding WWFM at an earlier stage, then the song would have been top 10, but by the time you accepted that something was going on, WWFM had already peaked on a lot of stations.

So next era when he still has no top 10 hit what he could have is a platinum certified single to help establish his credibility as a 'hit maker'. He shouldn't have to 'ask', that sort of stuff isn't about looking pretty on his wall or stroking his ego it is about establishing his standing in the music industry.

Did Jhud really ask for a gold certification when her album sold 300k copies or were you cementing her status as somebody who can shift records?

Guys, take it easy - if Adam cared about this or that single being certified, he'd ask and we'd make it so. Really, it's that simple.

You know what I'd really like to do, when the time comes? Make FYE platinum plaques available through the AO store, with the option for you to personalize them with your own names - how cool would that be? Hopefully I can sell the concept (and make it work from a B.A. standpoint) to the rest of Adam's team while we wait for FYE to reach that sales benchmark.

Buffynut2001 (which I first read as buttnut2001 - hey now!): here's an updated breakdown of all FYE songs:

TITLE / sales this week / total sales
TIME FOR MIRACLES / 230 / 136,706
WHATAYA WANT FROM ME / 3,449 / 1,724,913
MUSIC AGAIN / 44 / 16,221
SOAKED / 18 / 11,656
SURE FIRE WINNERS / 44 / 9,008
SLEEPWALKER / 78 / 24,845
MASTER PLAN / 32 / 16,692
STRUT / 146 / 29,630
BROKEN OPEN / 23 / 13,317
PICK U UP / 21 / 8,966
DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE / 52 / 18,801
FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT / 548 / 378,352
A LOADED SMILE / 23 / 5,656
AFTERMATH / 203 / 19,587
FEVER / 126 / 28,384
IF I HAD YOU / 2,132 / 795,915

Hi Ed! Hate to be a pain, but is there any chance we can have the numbers for WWFM separately? Would love to know what it is still selling weekly and what it's total is now. Thank you!

Yeah please certify WWFM RCA, it is ridiculous that it hasn't been certified as yet. IF RCA can certify JHuds album as gold when it has only sold 300k copines, why is it so difficult to put up that couple of hundred of dollars to get wwfm the platinum certification it really has earned?

@AuntGlambert I was too wondering about WWFM. If the 1.7 million copies are all sold in the US, wouldn' t he be called a platinum seller or the only way you can be a platinum seller is to be certified? I Know RCAED once said that the certification would have to come out of Adam's pocket but wouldn't it benefit Adam to have that recognition or is it something that is not worth the paper it is written on and that he still a platinum seller without the certification. The whole thing is totally confusing.

Thank you very much!

Thank you RCA Ed for those numbers. Smiling

RCAEd, I think AdamIsMyIdol2 was asking about platinum certificate for Whataya Want From Me track, not FYE CD. I kind wonder the same thing. Will he be officially certified platinum status for WWFM track since he has sold over 1.7 mil in the U.S.? What are the total sale # for IIHY in the U.S.?

As always, Ed, thank you so much for digging the numbers for us and answering our questions. Smiling

AdamIsMyIdol2: Platinum certifications are handed out by country, not for worldwide sales, so FYE is subject to the official award thresholds of each country its released in to earn those qualifications. However, those thresholds are usually met by numbers of albums shipped, not sold, so FYE will be eligible for Platinum certification in the U.S., for example, some time before Soundscan numbers breach the 1MM mark.

Ed, I read on another blog that Adam technically isn't considered a "platinum" seller for WWFM because he hasn't officially been certified. Is this true? He has sold almost 1.7 million copies of WWFM but can't call himself a platinum selling artist because of a mere technicality?

Thanks in advance for your response.

Thanks for the update @Ed ... Smiling

Good afternoon, everyone, here we go:

The GNL DVD shifted 1,691 units in the U.S. this week and charted at #2 in the Soundscan Music DVD chart, bringing release-to-date U.S. sales to 32,698.

The FYE CD moved 906 units in the U.S. TW, bringing RTD U.S. sales to 814,548.

7,169 FYE track downloads were sold TW in the U.S., which brings their collective RTD sales to 3,238,649.

The AL EP sold 57 units U.S. TW, giving it 26,964 total units to date.

520 EP tracks were downloaded TW in the U.S., bringing that RTD total to 26,964.

The Remixes EP has shifted 6,969 units (a.k.a song bundles) and 34,147 individual tunes to date (discounting redundant "WWFM" album version scans).

The "IIHY" Remix EP has moved 2,771 bundles and 19,360 individual downloads, collectively, to date.

The "Aftermath" Remix had 35 downloads TW for a release-to-date cume of 6,105.

And the unsanctioned Take One CD is sadly about to cross the 100k mark - shame, shame. Smiling

bumping so this thread is easy to find and checking back later in the day... thanks Ed!

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Sounds like a plan. Thanks, Ed.

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Sounds good...Wednesday it is!

Can we wait til Wednesday and then I'll get you guys updates for EVERYTHING? I promise. Smiling

bumping for Aftermath remix, FYE CD, and Acoustic Live EP numbers as well

thanks for the DVD numbers! Bumping for other numbers.... (curious about Aftermath Remix)

Thanks! Hoping for CD numbers as well Smiling

Thanks @RCA Ed ! Getting there Smiling

Hi guys, here's the latest:

1,603 DVDs sold in the U.S. this week for a grand total of 31,007.

I'll dig into the other numbers if I can sneak back here later.

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love to see numbers for Acoustic Live EP and Aftermath Remix single too (IIHY and WWFM would be great also).

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Is FYE CD still selling OK?

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love to see numbers for Acoustic Live EP and Aftermath Remix single too (IIHY and WWFM would be great also).

I'm curious too !